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Google Code Blog: An update on JavaOne

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Joshua Bloch of the Google Open Source Programs Office announced on the Google Code Blog that they will not be able to present at JavaOne this year:

"So we're sad to announce that we won't be able to present at JavaOne this year. We wish that we could, but Oracle's recent lawsuit against Google and open source has made it impossible for us to freely share our thoughts about the future of Java and open source generally. This is a painful realization for us, as we've participated in every JavaOne since 2004, and I personally have spoken at all but the first in 1996."

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Sad... the only people these patent crap lawsuits hurt are the users... Oracle didn't even create java... probably why they acquired Sun... so they could hop on the patent law suit train.

If Google was breaching so severely, why didn't Sun sue?

Not as greedy? or the Oracle is making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Either way, Oracle should crawl back into the hole from whence it came.

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Reply#1 - Sun Aug 29, 2010 1:23 PM EDT
Jay Butler

I don't think that any of us know enough details to know whether Google is in the clear on this or whether Oracle has valid issues with Google's use of Java.

Microsoft was successfully sued by Sun for making proprietary changes to the JVM. Who would have been hurt in that case had Sun not defended its patents and license? Mostly the users since Java would have begun fragmenting at that point.

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#1.1 - Sun Aug 29, 2010 2:15 PM EDT
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Kirk Lennon

I’ve got no respect for patent trolls, but from what I’ve read, it seems quite likely that Google is massively infringing on Oracle’s newly-acquired intellectual property. Instead of paying the licensing fees for commercial Java, or using the GLP version of Java, Google basically just stole it and tried to create a loophole.

Oracle is a major proponent of open source and actually a vocal component of the entire concept of software patents. But theft is theft, and Oracle has the right to open source Java on their own terms.

What interests me most about this is that Oracle is going for blood. They’re not merely asking to be paid for their software, but to ban the distribution of the stolen software, which will completely kill Android as a software platform. And there is very good reason to think that may very well happen. I’d be surprised if Google doesn’t lose this court fight.

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Reply#2 - Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:05 PM EDT
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